It has been exactly 17 years now.
University of Notre Dame women's basketball coach Muffet McGraw has pushed the events of that day as far into the corner of her memory bank as she can.
She still doesn't really want to talk about it.
But she does.
And she assuredly can't shake the emotions she felt then and still feels today.
On the fateful morning of Sept. 11, 2001, McGraw originally had been slated to fly from Boston to Los Angeles on United Flight 175. She was headed to visit eventual Irish commitment Courtney LaVere.
But several days earlier Notre Dame assistant coach — now Ohio State head coach — Kevin McGuff convinced her to change her plans and instead fly with him out of Providence. He was headed back to South Bend on a Delta flight via Detroit.
So she switched her flight to join McGuff.
On that Tuesday morning, United Flight 175 was the second plane to crash into the World Trade Center, the south tower, in New York at 9:03 a.m. The 65 people on board the huge Boeing 767 died, along with more than 2,500 others that day in lower Manhattan. At the Pentagon, 125 were killed and 40 more died in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. During the attacks on Sept. 11, 2,996 people lost their lives and more than 6,000 were injured.
McGraw never wanted to speak about her experience.
Now, for the first time, she haltingly and emotionally offers her thoughts on what happened over those days.
McGraw and McGuff had flown commercially to Boston on Monday to make a home visit that night in the recruitment of Nicole Wolff, a guard from Walpole, Massachusetts. Wolff, the 2002 McDonald's High School Player of the Year, eventually enrolled at Connecticut.
McGraw was slated to fly home Tuesday morning and —with the two of them sharing a rental car — McGuff talked McGraw into passing on her nonstop flight to the West Coast to instead join him on the first Delta leg out of Providence to Detroit.
She's still not sure why she agreed.
"He said it would be much easier to fly out of Providence than Boston," she recalls of the conversation a few days earlier. "I said, 'Yeah, but I can't go direct.' He somehow just convinced me, and I thought, 'Well, it's not that big a deal, I'll just go out of Providence.'
"If it had been another assistant coach, they might have said, 'Fine, I'll drive you to Boston.' But he was kind of like, 'I'm not driving to Boston.'
McGraw's husband Matt recalls being in the kitchen and listening to that conversation between McGuff and his wife.
"I was thinking to myself, "He (McGuff) is going to lose this bet because she never buckles on things like this," he says.
But she did, and so McGraw and McGuff boarded the plane in Providence Tuesday morning.
"No one said anything," said McGraw, "and we wondered why we weren't taking off. We were just sitting there and sitting there. Then they came on and said, 'We're going to deplane and go back into the airport and check out the monitors.'
"We got off . . . and we saw the second plane hit on TV . . . right there.
"And then we ran into (Irish men's basketball coach) Mike Brey. We didn't even know he was there.
"We were lucky to rent a car, and then it was a 15-hour drive home."
Brey recalls all those circumstances:
"It was a beautiful day in the Northeast, but yet they put 'Delayed' up for our flight out of Providence.
"I'm in the commuter terminal downstairs and there are no TVs. I walked up to the desk and said, 'Is it mechanical?'
"And I'll never forget this – the guy at the desk obviously was clued in. You would have thought he saw a ghost.
"He said, 'No sir, I don't know if this one's gonna go today.' I thought, 'This is weird.'
"I sat around another 10 minutes and still didn't know what had happened. Then I walked upstairs into the main lobby and everyone is around the TVs watching. I walk a little further and it's Muffet and Kevin McGuff.
"I said, 'We've got to get a rental car and start driving. This is a crisis.'
"We got to Hertz, got the last rental car and we just roll. I think they stopped renting cars because of the security concerns that some of the terrorists might be trying to do that."
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The three listened to developments on the car radio throughout the drive back to South Bend.
"I just stayed in the back seat. We tried to avoid conversation about it," McGraw says.
"Muffet and I never talked about that day again," says Brey. "Kevin drove the whole way home. I offered to help with the driving, but Kevin went the whole way and dropped us off in South Bend."
Even more emotional was McGraw's communication with Matt. He was at Notre Dame's Warren Golf Course that Tuesday morning – but he believed his wife was still scheduled on the United flight out of Boston.
"That was the hardest," she says, her voice quietly trailing off.
"Apparently someone at the course talked about what had happened to the flight from Boston to LA – and he thought I was on it.
"When I talked to him he was so relieved. I told him I was coming home.
"It was probably worse for him, thinking I was on that plane."
Matt recalls stopping in the clubhouse after playing part of his round.
"Everybody was looking at the television, and I said, 'What are you looking at?' And they said a plane had just hit the twin towers. I thought it was just one of those small-engine planes.
"I went back out and played a few more holes and when I stopped back in the clubhouse, they were still looking at the TV. I said, 'What are you looking at now?' They said a second plane hit the towers. I said, 'What kind of plane?' And they said a passenger flight. I said, 'From where?' They said, 'From Boston,' and I said, 'Muffet's on that flight.'
"So now I'm in a panic. I walk out of the clubhouse and I dial her number and it rings and rings. But I knew that sometimes she changes flights in a second.
"On about the 10th ring, she answers and I said, 'Where are you right now?' She said they had just taken them off the plane in Providence because there was a problem with the computer systems. I said, 'There's not a problem with the computers. That plane just hit the twin towers – get Kevin, go rent a car now and get the hell back here.'
"I think for all of us, it's like a part of you died that day that hasn't come back.
"Frightening would be the simplest way to say it.
"Was she on that flight?
"You're just scared to death."
There may be no way to describe the terror Matt felt when he thought Muffet was on that plane.
Adds Brey, "And the night before couldn't have been better for us. It was me, Anthony Solomon and Torin Francis' prep school coach sitting on a deck, having a beverage, because Torin had committed and he was going to make his official visit that next weekend. Of course we had to scratch that because all the flights were cancelled.
"But we were thinking, 'Life is good. We just got a McDonald's All-American to come to Notre Dame. Life is good.'
"Then the next morning everything changed."
By the next day, plenty of people had heard about McGraw's circumstances.
"But I didn't want to talk about it back then," she says. "I think I was kind of glued to the TV for a few days to see what was happening. Flights were cancelled, and our official visits that next weekend were off, too."
She doesn't recall hearing much from her players once she returned to campus.
"But it didn't matter because I really didn't want to talk about it anyway."
That decision to switch fights goes down as more impactful than any she has made on the basketball sideline.
There were a handful of memorials and other ceremonies to denote the 9/11 events – but McGraw could not bring herself to participate.
She never visited Ground Zero.
"I couldn't do it. It was enough seeing it on TV," she says.
But a year ago she visited the new National September 11 Memorial and Museum on Greenwich Street in Manhattan. When she did, she didn't quite know what to think or how to react.
"It was a little emotional. But I also didn't know anyone who was actually in either of the buildings," she says.
It was hard for McGraw – or anyone else alive that day – to compare those events to anything else.
"It changes your perspective on things," she says. "What you care about, what's important. It all kind of changes."
McGraw believes good things come in threes.
In 2001 that triumvirate was the Irish national championship, a summer hole-in-one on the golf course -- and then the September decision to change her flight.
In 2018 McGraw and her Irish already have achieved another NCAA title.
She's waiting for the next hole-in-one.